Episode 251 Leading Through Suffering: Finding God in the Wilderness
With Jeff and Terra Mattson
In this episode, we open up about the often hidden cost of leadership—especially in seasons of suffering. We reflect on how narrowing our relational circles, honoring emotional limits, and learning to trust God more deeply can become sacred tools for healing. Whether you're leading in a church, home, or organization, we share real stories and biblical truths that reveal how hardship doesn't disqualify us—it deepens us. Join us as we explore how to let our theology shape our reality, not the other way around.
Takeaways
Margins Matter in Suffering: Protecting emotional and relational margins allows us to heal and lead well, especially during seasons of grief or burnout.
Concentric Circles of Support: Shrinking your relational circle in hard times isn’t selfish—it’s wise stewardship of limited emotional energy.
Suffering as a Trust Muscle Builder: God often uses pain not to punish, but to strengthen our ability to trust Him deeply and fully.
Let Theology Shape Reality: When emotions feel overwhelming, grounding ourselves in who God is keeps us from spiraling into distorted beliefs.
Jesus Modeled Relational Boundaries: Even Christ chose an inner circle and stepped away from the crowds, showing leaders how to steward their capacity.
Trauma-Informed Leadership: Understanding how past wounds affect behavior is crucial for both personal healing and guiding others with compassion.
No Shortcuts in Healing: Leaders are often tempted to move through pain quickly, but authentic transformation requires slow, intentional work.
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Jeff & Terra
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