Episode 262: Why Reluctant Leaders Make the Strongest Guides
With Jeff and Terra Mattson and Featured Guests Willa Kane and Sally Breedlove
In this episode, we sit down with Sally Breedlove and Willa Kane, two authors of Eighth Day Prayers. Together we explore how listening to God first transforms our leadership, our relationships, and our daily rhythms. From reluctant leadership to scripture-soaked prayer, Sally and Willa share how anchoring ourselves in God’s Word and the rhythms of the church calendar can create margin, cultivate hope, and deepen our joy. This is a conversation about slowing down, making space for God’s voice, and discovering the gift of community in prayer.
Key Takeaways
Listen first, speak second: Lasting leadership begins by listening to God before we speak or act.
Reluctant leaders bring strength: Those who never sought influence often carry a unique humility and integrity.
Scripture-soaked prayer sustains us: Simple, accessible rhythms of prayer keep us grounded in truth and hope.
The church calendar roots our lives: Living by God’s seasons—Advent, Lent, Easter, and beyond—offers balance and perspective in a busy world.
Saying no is leadership too: Boundaries create the space for faithful, Spirit-led influence.
Collaboration is a gift: When pride is set aside, shared work can become joy-filled and deeply fruitful.
Beauty belongs in faith: Prayer practices that are both true and beautiful invite us—and others—into God’s presence.
Website: eighthdayprayers.org
Instagram: @eighthdayprayers
Facebook: Eighth Day Prayers
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